Comments on: Ancient Chinese Dynasties http://cyrix.blogsome.com/2005/12/19/ancient-chinese-dynasties/ Cyrix's Litany On Life, 'presently-non-existent' Love and Politics Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:58:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1-alpha by: HiTmAn http://cyrix.blogsome.com/2005/12/19/ancient-chinese-dynasties/#comment-110 Mon, 02 Jan 2006 11:25:12 +0000 http://cyrix.blogsome.com/2005/12/19/ancient-chinese-dynasties/#comment-110 Quote: "The Chinese people have the earliest history in the world (starting around 1600 BC, compared to the Western civilisation which started around 800 BC)" as u can see, he said it was the earliest but its not Quote: “The Chinese people have the earliest history in the world (starting around 1600 BC, compared to the Western civilisation which started around 800 BC)” as u can see, he said it was the earliest but its not

]]> by: bozo http://cyrix.blogsome.com/2005/12/19/ancient-chinese-dynasties/#comment-109 Fri, 23 Dec 2005 20:23:47 +0000 http://cyrix.blogsome.com/2005/12/19/ancient-chinese-dynasties/#comment-109 He said one of the earliest. He did not say it's the earliest. He said one of the earliest. He did not say it’s the earliest.

]]> by: HiTmAn http://cyrix.blogsome.com/2005/12/19/ancient-chinese-dynasties/#comment-108 Fri, 23 Dec 2005 09:30:38 +0000 http://cyrix.blogsome.com/2005/12/19/ancient-chinese-dynasties/#comment-108 Even tho im a chinese, i feel that i should say that we dont have the earliest history. that honor goes 2 the egyptians, who's history begins with egypt as a unified state, which occurred sometime around 3000BC. Even tho im a chinese, i feel that i should say that we dont have the earliest history. that honor goes 2 the egyptians, who’s history begins with egypt as a unified state, which occurred sometime around 3000BC.

]]> by: cyrix http://cyrix.blogsome.com/2005/12/19/ancient-chinese-dynasties/#comment-107 Mon, 19 Dec 2005 22:56:25 +0000 http://cyrix.blogsome.com/2005/12/19/ancient-chinese-dynasties/#comment-107 Oh yeah, I almost forgot. There's a novel written by a <em>Mat Salleh</em> on this matter exactly. It's called <em>'Chung Kuo'</em> in which this alternative history is explored. The Chinese continued to be the leaders of the world in a futuristic setting. However, the emperor and dynasty system is still in place there. But of course, being written by a <em>Mat Salleh</em>, there's a rebellion by the white dudes against the government :) Check it out and see! :P Oh yeah, I almost forgot. There’s a novel written by a Mat Salleh on this matter exactly. It’s called ‘Chung Kuo’ in which this alternative history is explored. The Chinese continued to be the leaders of the world in a futuristic setting. However, the emperor and dynasty system is still in place there. But of course, being written by a Mat Salleh, there’s a rebellion by the white dudes against the government :) Check it out and see! :P

]]> by: cyrix http://cyrix.blogsome.com/2005/12/19/ancient-chinese-dynasties/#comment-106 Mon, 19 Dec 2005 22:50:49 +0000 http://cyrix.blogsome.com/2005/12/19/ancient-chinese-dynasties/#comment-106 xhiin: Shuudup lah banana no. 2! :P anthraxxxx: Yeah, I guess every Chinese and historian have contempelated that thought before :) I would guess that if that happened, China would eventually made contact with Western Europe (which was still quite pitiful then) and will influence their direction in history. For example, Europeans may start wearing Chinese robes, and implement similar government systems? But on the long run, it would be China, and not the USA who would become the world leader. Chinese pop culture would dominate the world, bringing Chinese culture to most countries. Mandarin would be the international language. Racism would be reversed: Chinese would look down upon Westerners/Africans/Middle-Easterns/etc. But apart from that fatal close-door foreign policy, we must also remember that China didn't embark on its own Industrial Revolution during the Ming and Qing dynasties. Why? I'm guessing we didn't concentrate enough on the sciences then. Too much philosophies and poetries. Plus the last element which I think contributed to the Chinese decline was Confucianism. Its discouragement on commerce and trading realy screwed us up. Plus its love for tradition and conservatism also help us back from discovering new lands as well as making new scientific discoveries. Just look at how little has changed between the Qin dynasty and the Ming dynasty. We even dressed in nearly the same style! xhiin: Shuudup lah banana no. 2! :P

anthraxxxx: Yeah, I guess every Chinese and historian have contempelated that thought before :)

I would guess that if that happened, China would eventually made contact with Western Europe (which was still quite pitiful then) and will influence their direction in history. For example, Europeans may start wearing Chinese robes, and implement similar government systems?

But on the long run, it would be China, and not the USA who would become the world leader. Chinese pop culture would dominate the world, bringing Chinese culture to most countries. Mandarin would be the international language. Racism would be reversed: Chinese would look down upon Westerners/Africans/Middle-Easterns/etc.

But apart from that fatal close-door foreign policy, we must also remember that China didn’t embark on its own Industrial Revolution during the Ming and Qing dynasties. Why? I’m guessing we didn’t concentrate enough on the sciences then. Too much philosophies and poetries.

Plus the last element which I think contributed to the Chinese decline was Confucianism. Its discouragement on commerce and trading realy screwed us up. Plus its love for tradition and conservatism also help us back from discovering new lands as well as making new scientific discoveries. Just look at how little has changed between the Qin dynasty and the Ming dynasty. We even dressed in nearly the same style!

]]> by: anthraxxxx http://cyrix.blogsome.com/2005/12/19/ancient-chinese-dynasties/#comment-105 Mon, 19 Dec 2005 21:58:18 +0000 http://cyrix.blogsome.com/2005/12/19/ancient-chinese-dynasties/#comment-105 It's very interesting that chinese civilization has spanned more than 4000 years. Sometimes I can't help it but wonder what will ever happen if the Ming dynasty never closes their door on foreign policy. It’s very interesting that chinese civilization has spanned more than 4000 years. Sometimes I can’t help it but wonder what will ever happen if the Ming dynasty never closes their door on foreign policy.

]]> by: xhiin http://cyrix.blogsome.com/2005/12/19/ancient-chinese-dynasties/#comment-104 Mon, 19 Dec 2005 03:38:13 +0000 http://cyrix.blogsome.com/2005/12/19/ancient-chinese-dynasties/#comment-104 wooo suddenly so proud of your heritage eh now go and learn mandarin and stop forever critisizing your roots and people heck, but you're so fickle next you'll be pro-aborigines wahaha! wooo
suddenly so proud of your heritage eh
now go and learn mandarin and stop forever critisizing your roots and people

heck, but you’re so fickle next you’ll be pro-aborigines wahaha!

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